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Memorial, 23 December; Profile, Son of Saint Sigebert III, king of Austrasia,
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Friend of Saint Wilfred of York. He married an English princess, and had
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Fought against Theodercus III. Eventually recalled to Austrasia for a
supposed reunion, he died in a "hunting accident" that most considered a
murder committed to permanently remove him from the throne. Merovingian king of Austrasia 676-679 A.D. Inherited throne 656 aged 5. Mayor-of-the-palace Grimoald had his hair shorn and sent him exile in Ireland so his own son could sit on the throne. Brought back in 676 and, during civil war with neighbouring Neustria in 679, assassinated by godson Jean in the sacred Forest of Woevres near the Royal Palace of Stenay on December 23rd. Officially died without an heir. Unofficially had a son, Sigebert IV, who escaped to the Razes (Rennes-le-Chateau area) where he was sheltered by his grandfather and grew up to father a secret line of descent, the secrecy being kept by the Lords of Rennes. Dagobert II, King of Austrasia 676-79, son of Sigebert III, exiled to Ireland 657, made king after the murder of Childeric II, by Austrasian magnates who were opposed to Ebroin: he was assassinated probably by supporters of Ebroin. [Note 6: Why was Dagobert exiled? It seems likely he was not the son of Sigebert III's queen Chimnechild, who may have cooperated with Grimoald to set up Childebert III. Later she hoped to keep the throne in her own family by marrying her daughter Bilichild to Childeric II, so that the eventual heir would be her grandson. After Dagobert's murder, Pippin II Mayor of the Palace of Austrasia 679-714 dominated Austrasia, and left the throne empty until after the battle of Tertry 687, when he accepted Theuderic III]. St. Dagobert is being mentioned because this saint is feared among the enemies of the Roman Catholic Church and the heretics in the Vatican II Church who will not mention him, and we hope the true Catholic faith and the Church is restored to its former beauty and faith by getting rid of the manifest heretics like the 120 redhats that can vote for a pope and their captain Ben who will sink with the ship and all on board the novus ordo cruise to hell, gehenna, hades, fire and brimstone... There is another piece of data regarding this saint. It is known as St. Dagobert's revenge. What that revenge may actually be is not certain, but I am all for it for the modernists, heretics, liberals who have tried to destroy the Roman Catholic Church and the pre-Vatican II Magisterium, the Mass and the holiness that has disappeared in the Church since the dogs took it over. |
newsletter#2 A Short Refutation of the Theory of Baptism of Desire - by Peter Dimond, O.S.B. - In many ways the dogma outside
the Catholic Church there is no salvation is the most important dogma in the
Catholic Church. Connected with this is the necessity of receiving the
Sacrament of Baptism. But today both of these truths are almost universally denied
by those calling themselves Catholic. They assert that the unbaptized
can be united to the Church, justified (attain the state of grace) and saved by
what is called baptism of desire. A tiny minority of those who believe
in baptism of desire (less than 1%) limit it to those who actually
desire baptism and believe in the Catholic religion (e.g., unbaptized catechumens). The vast majority of them (more
than 99%) extend the possibility of salvation by baptism of desire to
pagans, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. and people of no religion, who do not
actually desire baptism or believe in the Catholic Faith. This majority group
also somehow extends the "saving capability" of baptism of desire
to Protestants, even though Protestants have already been baptized. In this newsletter we will show that the
Catholic Church has infallibly taught that one cannot enter into the kingdom of
heaven without being born again of water and the Holy Ghost (i.e., actually
receiving the Sacrament of Baptism). The discussion will focus mainly on baptism
of desire as it is believed by the tiny minority (for those who actually
desire baptism and believe in the Catholic religion), because the majority’s
definition of baptism of desire (that baptism of desire saves those who
don’t believe in the Catholic Faith or actually desire baptism) is directly
contrary to many defined dogmas, was never held by any saint, and is a denial
of the Athanasian Creed which defined that whoever wishes
to be saved must believe in Jesus Christ, the Most Holy Trinity and the
Catholic Faith. Baptism of Desire – On the Witness Stand 1) Are the
words of Jesus Christ in John 3:5 (" Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a
man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter the kingdom of
God.") to be taken as they are written, or not as they are
written? All defenders of the theory of baptism of
desire must admit that they believe that John 3:5 is not to be taken
literally. They agree that baptism
of desire cannot be true if John 3:5 is understood as it is written. So the
question is: Does the Catholic Church understand John 3:5 as it is written
or not? Pope Paul III, Council
of Trent, Sess. 6, Chap. 4: "In these words
there is suggested a description of the justification of the impious,
how there is a transition from that state in which a person is born as a child
of the first Adam to the state of grace and of adoption as sons of God through
the second Adam, Jesus Christ our savior; indeed, this transition, once the
gospel has been promulgated, CANNOT TAKE PLACE WITHOUT THE LAVER
OF REGENERATION OR A DESIRE FOR IT, AS IT IS
WRITTEN: UNLESS A MAN BE BORN
AGAIN OF WATER AND THE HOLY GHOST, HE CANNOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD
(JOHN 3:5)." The reader can see very clearly that the
Council of The baptism of desire people believe that
the use of the word "or" (Latin: aut)
in the above passage means that justification can take
place by the water of baptism or the desire for it. But a careful look at the passage
proves this to be false. The passage says that justification cannot take
place without the laver of regeneration (water baptism) or the desire for
it; in other words, both are necessary. Suppose I said, "This shower
cannot take place without water or the desire to take one." Does this
mean that the shower takes place by the desire to take a shower? Absolutely not. It means that both are necessary. In fact,
the Latin word aut ("or") is used in
the same way in other passages in the Council of Trent. In the introduction to
the decree on Justification, the Council strictly forbids anyone to "believe,
preach or teach" (credere, praedicare aut docere) other than as it is defined and declared in the
decree on Justification. Pope Paul III, Council
of Trent, Session 6, Introduction: "... strictly forbidding that
anyone henceforth may presume to believe, preach or teach, otherwise
than is defined and declared by this present decree." Does "or" (aut)
in this passage mean that one is only forbidden to preach contrary to
the Council’s decree on justification, but one is allowed to teach contrary to
it? No, obviously "or"(aut) means
that both preaching and teaching are forbidden, just like in chapter 4
above "or" means that justification cannot take place without
both water and desire. Another example of the use of aut
to mean "and" (or "both") in Trent is found in Sess. 21, Chap. 2, the decree on Communion under both
species (Denz. 931). Pope Pius IV, Council
of Trent, Sess. 21, Chap.
2: "Therefore holy mother Church... has approved this custom of
communicating under either species, and has decreed that it be considered as a
law, which may not be repudiated or be changed at will without
the authority of the Church." Does aut in
this declaration mean that the Council’s decree may not be repudiated, but it
may be changed? No, obviously it means that both a
repudiation and a change are forbidden. This is another clear example of
how the Latin word aut can be used in contexts
which render its meaning "and" or "both". And these
examples blow away the claim of baptism of desire supporters: that the meaning
of aut in Chapter 4, Session 6 is one which
favors baptism of desire. But why does Catechism
of the Council of "INTENTION
- ... In the first place they must desire and intend to receive it…"
So, far from being in favor of baptism of
desire, this chapter of the Council of Trent actually goes against it. It
defines that justification of the impious cannot take place without the water
of baptism or the desire for it. We know this interpretation of this passage is
correct, because if what baptism of desire proponents say were
correct, we would actually have the Council teaching us in the first part of
the sentence that John 3:5 is not to be taken as it is written
(desire sometimes suffices), while simultaneously contradicting itself in the
second part of the sentence by telling us to take John 3:5 as it is
written (sicut scriptumest)!
But this passage is infallible and there is no contradiction contained
therein. So let every baptism of desire supporter cease preaching
that Sess. 6, Chap. 4 teaches that justification
"can" be effected by water or desire, which is certainly not
what the Council says. Let them cease preaching that John 3:5 is not
to be taken AS IT IS WRITTEN. Let them cease quoting the horrible
mistranslation of this passage as it is found in Denzinger
(which many of them continue obstinately to do after it has been pointed
out to them). And furthermore, let not these people think that they
justify themselves before the all-knowing God by ignoring the above facts and
continuing to obstinately assert that Sess. 6, Chap.
4 definitely teaches baptism of desire. They cannot be justified
asserting this even by quoting famous Church theologians, who were mistaken in
good faith; for God did not give the charism of
infallibility to theologians, however great, but to Peter and his successors
alone (Lk. 22:31-32). Some baptism of desire supporters also bring
forward Sess. 7, Can. 4 on the Sacraments to somehow
try to prove baptism of desire. But it’s obvious that this canon does not teach
that either the sacraments or the desire for them is sufficient for
justification, as some claim, but that it condemns those who assert that
neither the sacraments nor the desire for them is necessary for justification,
and that faith alone suffices. It does not affirm that either is
sufficient, but condemns those who assert that neither is necessary. For a full
discussion of this canon we refer you to the section on it in issue #6 of our
magazine. It is also quite interesting to consider
that whereas the Council of Trent never teaches baptism
of desire, it teaches no less than three times (twice in Sess. 6, Chap. 14 and once in Sess.
14, Chap. 4) that the desire for the Sacrament of Penance (if a person has
perfect contrition) can suffice for justification before Penance is actually
received. This efficacy of the desire for the Sacrament of Penance is
mentioned three times, but the supposed efficacy of the desire for baptism
(baptism of desire) is not mentioned at all. This should indicate something
to those who believe in baptism of desire: God didn’t allow it to be taught in
the infallible Council of Trent or any other Council or even in any Papal
encyclical in the history of the Church, because it is an erroneous theory.
John 3:5 is true exactly as it is written (Trent, Sess.
6, Chap. 4). If the concept of baptism of desire were
a true teaching of the Church, then the Council of Trent definitely would have
included it in the canons on Baptism or in the chapters on Justification. But
it’s nowhere to be found. It’s also noteworthy that the terms baptism of desire
and baptism of blood are not found anywhere even in The Catechism of the
Council of Trent - contrary to what many assert. For a discussion of what The
Catechism of the Council of Trent does and does not teach on Baptism,
consult the section on it in issue #6 of our magazine. 2) Is there
one baptism or are there three? Is there only one baptism celebrated in
water? Or do three baptisms exist: water, blood and desire? Let us quote the
teaching of the Church: The Dogmatic Nicene Creed: "We confess one
baptism for the remission of sins." Countless Popes have professed the
dogma that there is only one baptism (see issue #6 of our magazine for quotes
from no less than 9 other Popes). Did baptism of desire proponents ever wonder
why countless Popes have professed that there is only one baptism, and not a
single one of them bothered to define the so-called "other two"
(desire and blood)? Why has not a single Pope ever used the terms "baptism
of desire" and "baptism of blood"? Why did two general councils
of the Church – Lateran IV and Pope
Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, Constitution
1, 1215, ex cathedra: "But the sacrament of baptism is
consecrated in water at the invocation of the undivided Trinity – namely,
Father, Son and Holy Ghost – and brings salvation to both children and adults
when it is correctly carried out by anyone in the form laid down by the
Church." If the sacrament of baptism brings
salvation to children and adults (de fide), then without it there is
no salvation! Pope
Clement V, Council of Vienne, 1311-1312, ex
cathedra: "Besides, one baptism which regenerates
all who are baptized in Christ must be faithfully confessed by all
just as ‘one God and one faith’ [Eph. 4:5], which celebrated in water
in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit we believe
to be commonly the perfect remedy for salvation for adults as for
children." Here Pope Clement V defines as a dogma that
ONE BAPTISM must be faithfully confessed by all, which is celebrated in water.
This means that all Catholics must profess one baptism of water, not three
baptisms: of water, blood and desire. To confess "three baptisms",
and not one, is to reject Catholic dogma. 3) Are those
who have not received the Sacrament of Baptism part of the faithful? Who are the faithful? Can one who has not
been baptized be considered part of the faithful? I have not, as yet, heard any
believer in baptism of desire try to answer this question. The following facts
explain why I have not yet gotten an answer to this question; it is because
they cannot answer this question. Pope Innocent III, Fourth
Lateran Council, Constitution 1, 1215, ex cathedra: "THERE IS INDEED ONE
UNIVERSAL CHURCH OF THE FAITHFUL, outside of which nobody at all is saved, in which
Jesus Christ is both priest and sacrifice." As many of you know, the Catholic Mass is
divided into two parts: the Mass of the catechumens (those training to
be baptized) and the Mass of the faithful (those baptized). Need one say more?
In the early Church, the unsacramentally baptized
(i.e., those who had not been baptized with water) had to leave after
the Mass of the catechumens, when the faithful professed the Creed. The unbaptized were not allowed to stay for the Mass of the
faithful, because it is only by receiving the Sacrament of Baptism that one
becomes one of the faithful. This is the teaching of Tradition. This
teaching of Tradition is why in the Traditional Rite of Baptism, the unbaptized catechumen is asked what he desires from holy
Church, and he answers "Faith." The unbaptized
catechumen does not have "the Faith", so he begs the Church for it in
the "Sacrament of Faith" (Baptism), which alone makes him one of
"the faithful." "For the Catechumen is a stranger to the Faithful… One has Christ for his King; the other
sin and the devil; the food of one is Christ, of the other, that meat which
decays and perishes… Since then we have nothing in common, in what, tell me,
shall we hold communion?… Let us then give diligence
that we may become citizens of the city above… for if it should come to pass
(which God forbid!) that through the sudden arrival of death we depart hence
uninitiated, though we have ten thousand virtues, our portion will be none
other than hell, and the venomous worm, and fire unquenchable, and bonds
indissoluble." Pope Paul III, Council of Trent, Session 6, Chap. 7 on
Justification, ex cathedra: "… the instrumental cause [of
Justification] is THE SACRAMENT OF
BAPTISM, WHICH IS ‘THE SACRAMENT OF FAITH,’ without faith no one is ever
justified… THIS FAITH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH APOSTOLIC TRADITION, CATECHUMENS BEG
OF THE CHURCH BEFORE THE SACRAMENT OF BAPTISM, when they ask for ‘faith
which bestows life eternal,’ (Rit. And with these facts in mind (that a
catechumen "begs" for the faith because he isn’t part of the
faithful), remember the definition of Pope Innocent III at the Fourth Lateran
Council: "There is indeed one universal Church of the faithful,
outside of which nobody at all is saved…" The original Latin reads:
"Una vero est fidelium universalis
ecclesia, extra quam nullus
omnino salvatur…"
The Latin words nullus omnino
mean "absolutely nobody." Absolutely nobody outside the one Church of
the faithful is saved. Since the one Church of the faithful only includes those
who have received the Sacrament of Baptism – as apostolic tradition, liturgical
tradition and Church dogma show – this means that absolutely nobody is saved
without the Sacrament of Baptism. 4) Is Our
Lord’s command to be baptized impossible for some to fulfill? Catechism
of the Council of "Holy
writers are unanimous in saying that after the Resurrection of our Lord, when
He gave to His Apostles the command to go and teach all nations: baptizing
them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, the
law of Baptism became obligatory on all who were to be saved." As proven above, God commanded all men to be
baptized. The supporters of the theory of baptism of desire argue that for
some people the command to be baptized is impossible to fulfill. Pope Paul III, Council of Trent, Session 6, Chap. 11 on
Justification, ex cathedra: "... no one should make use of that rash statement forbidden
under anathema by the Fathers, that the commandments of God are impossible to
observe for a man who is justified. ‘FOR
GOD DOES NOT COMMAND IMPOSSIBILITIES, but by commanding admonishes you both
to do what you can do, and to pray for what you cannot
do…" Is Lefebvrism Catholic? Recently, the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX – Lefebvrists) published two books attacking the teaching of
the Church on Baptism. They spend their time trying to figure out ways for
people to be saved without baptism – but to no avail. Baptism of Desire
by Fr. Jean-Marc Rulleau was published by the
SSPX in 1999, while Is Feeneyism Catholic? by Fr.
Francois Laisney was published in 2001. The
premise of these books - especially Is Feeneyism
Catholic? - is that it is not Catholic to take John 3:5 as it is
written. Such a premise not only condemns the teaching of the Council of Trent,
that John 3:5 is to be taken as it is written (as we have shown), but it
literally means that you are not Catholic if you believe exactly what the
following Magisterial teaching declares: Pope
Eugene IV, The Council of Florence, Sess. 8, Exultate Deo, 1439: "Holy baptism, which is the gateway to
the spiritual life, holds the first place among all the sacraments; through it
we are made members of Christ and of the body of the Church. And
since death entered the universe through the first man, ‘unless we are born of
water and the Spirit, we cannot,’ as the Truth says, ‘enter into the kingdom of
heaven’ [John 3:5]. The matter of this sacrament is real and natural
water." Pope
Pius XI, Quas Primas (#
15), Here we see the Council of Besides the heretical premise described
above, there is much, much more that could be mentioned about the recent works
of the Society of St. Pius X, especially Is Feeneyism
Catholic? by Father Laisney.
You don’t want to miss our in-depth review of these books in issue #6 of our
magazine, in the section on the Society of St. Pius X. But here we will just
mention a few things about each book. Baptism of Desire by Fr. Jean-Marc Rulleau
pretends to be an examination of the Church’s teaching on what is necessary for
salvation: the necessity of baptism, the necessity of faith in Jesus Christ,
etc. Yet amazingly, in the entire book, the author does not quote one (I
repeat, not one) of the ex cathedra (infallible) Papal statements on
Outside the Church There is No Salvation! I guess he didn’t feel they were
relevant? He did feel it important to mention, however, that Baptism of
Desire can occur among paganism (BOD, p. 64); that justifying faith can
come from false religions (BOD, p. 61); that it is an error to attribute
infallibility to every document of the Magisterium
(BOD, p. 9) – all of which is heresy! The author also states that to refuse
St. Thomas Aquinas is to refuse the Magisterium
(BOD, p. 11)! This utterance is particularly absurd and quite hypocritical when
we consider that the same author, when treating of whether implicit or explicit
faith in Jesus is necessary to be saved (pp. 56-57), remarks that he’s not sure
what authority St. Thomas’ opinion on this point holds – since St. Thomas says
that explicit belief in Jesus Christ is necessary for salvation and the Society
of St. Pius X does not! So much for "to refuse St.
Thomas Aquinas is to refuse the Magisterium." As distressing as Baptism of Desire was, Fr.
Laisney’s book Is Feeneyism
Catholic? is even worse. For instance, there are these
incredible statements of Father Laisney: Father
Francois Laisney, Is Feeneyism
Catholic?,
pp. 47-48: "Moreover, the very Council of This is scary, especially from one who
claims to be a traditional Catholic priest. The Council of Florence mentions
absolutely nothing about baptism of desire! It mentions nothing of adult
catechumens; and it mentions nothing of "baptism of desire" being "another remedy" "for the
reasons given by Fr. Francois Laisney, Is Feeneyism Catholic?, p. 9: "…
this is Baptism of Blood, which – the Church teaches – can save also little
children dying with their parents for Christ." Fr. Francois Laisney, Is Feeneyism
Catholic?, p. 22: "Note that an infant, not having yet the use of his
reason, has no other possibility to be saved than through the actual reception
of the sacrament of baptism, i.e., baptism of water." Hello? On page 9 he asserts that infants can
be saved without the Sacrament of Baptism – by baptism of blood. On page 22 he
assures us that "there is no other possibility" for infants to be
saved other than the Sacrament of Baptism. Fr. Laisney
cannot even avoid contradicting himself about what he says
"the Church teaches" (page 9), let alone
what the Church really teaches. The worst part of this mess is that Pope
Eugene IV dogmatically defined that infants have no other remedy for original
sin other than the Sacrament of Baptism, a dogma which Laisney
quotes on page 47! - denies on page 9! - affirms on page 22! - and then denies again on page 77! This type of dishonesty,
contradiction and heresy characterizes the books of the Society of St. Pius X
on baptism and salvation. Moreover, the SSPX – Lefebvrists
continue to promote the heretical idea that people can be saved in false
religions. The books by Archbishop Lefebvre, particularly Against the
Heresies (pp. 216-218) and Open Letter to Confused Catholics (pp.
73-74) – two of the SSPX’s best sellers – blatantly
deny the dogma that men are saved only in the Catholic religion. In Against the
Heresies page 216, Lefebvre writes: " Souls
can be saved in a religion other than the Catholic religion (Protestantism,
Islam, Buddhism, etc.)…" Page 217 says: "One cannot say, then,
that no one is saved in these religions…" Page 218: "When we
say that (Outside the Church there is no salvation), it is incorrectly
believed that we think that all the Protestants, all the Moslems, all the
Buddhists, all those who do not publicly belong to the Catholic Church go to
hell." Will anyone considering himself a "traditional
Catholic" have the audacity to say that these statements from Lefebvre are
not heretical? They are blatantly heretical! Anyone who would say that they are
not heretical is a heretic himself who rejects the defined dogma "outside
the Catholic Church there is no salvation." No Catholic who knows that the
SSPX teaches and promotes heresy, as we have just proven, can give them a penny
of financial support if he desires to remain Catholic. The following words of
Pope Gregory XVI could have been addressed specifically to the SSPX and those
who defend the heretical teaching that men are not saved only in the Catholic
religion. Pope
Gregory XVI, Summo Iugiter
Studio (# 2), May 27, 1832, on no salvation outside the Church: "Finally
some of these misguided people attempt to persuade themselves and others that
men are not saved only in the Catholic religion, but that even heretics may
attain eternal life." Strange Heresy? In May of 1999, the St.
Ambrose: "You have read, therefore, that the three witnesses in Baptism
are one: water, blood, and the spirit; and if you withdraw any one of these,
the Sacrament of Baptism is not valid. For what is water without the cross of
Christ? A common element without any sacramental effect.
Nor on the other hand is there any mystery of regeneration without water:
for ‘unless a man be born again of water and the
Spirit, he cannot enter the What’s amazing about this is that the Pope St. Leo the Great, dogmatic letter to Flavian,
Council of Chalcedon, 451: "Let him heed what the blessed apostle Peter preaches, that
sanctification by the Spirit is effected by the sprinkling of Christ’s blood
(1 Pet. 1:2); and let him not skip over the same apostle’s words, knowing that
you have been redeemed from the empty way of life you inherited from your
fathers, not with corruptible gold and silver but by the precious blood of
Jesus Christ, as of a lamb without stain or spot (1 Pet. 1:18). Nor should he
withstand the testimony of blessed John the apostle: and the blood of Jesus,
the Son of God, purifies us from every sin (1 Jn.
1:7); and again, This is the victory which conquers
the world, our faith. Who is there who conquers the world save one who believes
that Jesus is the Son of God? It is He, Jesus Christ, who has come through
water and blood, not in water only, but in water and blood. And because the
Spirit is truth, it is the Spirit who testifies. For there
are three who give testimony – Spirit and water and blood. And the three
are one. (1 Jn. 5:4-8) IN OTHER WORDS, THE SPIRIT OF
SANCTIFICATION AND THE BLOOD OF REDEMPTION AND THE WATER OF BAPTISM. THESE THREE ARE ONE AND REMAIN
INDIVISIBLE. NONE OF THEM IS SEPARABLE FROM ITS LINK WITH THE OTHERS."
Before we get into the tremendous
significance of this pronouncement, we will give a little background on this
dogmatic letter. This is Pope St. Leo the Great’s
famous dogmatic letter to Flavian, originally written
in 449, and later accepted by the Council of Chalcedon
– the fourth general Council of the Church – in 451 (quoted in Decrees of
the Ecumenical Councils, Georgetown Press, Vol. 1, p. 81). It is one of the
most important documents in the history of the Church. This is the famous
letter which, when read aloud at the dogmatic Council of Chalcedon,
caused all of the fathers of the Council (more than 500) to rise to their feet
and proclaim: "This is the faith of the Fathers, the faith of the apostles;
Peter has spoken through the mouth of Leo." The very letter in
itself embodies the term ex cathedra (speaking from the Chair of Peter),
as proven by the reaction of the fathers at And if that were not sufficient to prove
that Pope Leo's letter is without question infallible, consider the fact that
it was also approved by Pope Vigilius at the Second
Council of Constantinople (553) and by Pope St. Agatho
at the Third Council of Constantinople (680-681). It was also confirmed
infallibly by a number of other Popes, including: Pope St. Gelasius,
Pope Pelagius II, 553 (Den. 246) and Pope Benedict XIV, 1743 (Denz. 1463). Because of the tremendous significance of Pope
Leo's letter to the topic at hand, we will quote an extract from Pope St. Gelasius which shows how no one can contradict, in the slightest
way, this dogmatic epistle of Pope Leo to Flavian. Pope St. Gelasius,
Decretal, 495: "Also the epistle of blessed Leo
the Pope to Flavian… if anyone argues concerning the
text of this one even in regard to one iota, and does not receive it in all respects
reverently, let him be anathema." (Denz. 165) Here we have Pope St. Gelasius
speaking ex cathedra to condemn anyone who would depart, even in regard to one
iota, from the text of Pope Leo's dogmatic epistle to Flavian. Now, in the section of Pope Leo’s dogmatic
letter quoted above, he is dealing with the sanctification by the Spirit.
"Sanctification by the Spirit" is the term for Justification from
the state of sin (the state of grace). No one can get to heaven without
Sanctification by the Spirit, as everyone professing to be Catholic admits.
Pope St. Leo affirms, on the authority of the great apostles Sts. Peter and
John, that this Sanctification by the Spirit is effected by the sprinkling of
Christ’s blood. It is only by receiving the blood of Redemption, he
proves, that one can be changed from the state of Adam (original sin) to the
state of grace (justification/sanctification). It is only by this Blood that
Sanctification by the Spirit works. This dogma was also defined by the Council
of Trent. Pope
Paul III, Council of Trent, Sess. 5, on
original sin, ex cathedra: "If anyone asserts that this sin of
Adam... is taken away either by the forces of human nature, or by any remedy
other than the merit of the one mediator, our Lord Jesus Christ, who has
reconciled us to God in his own blood, ‘made unto us justice,
sanctification, and redemption’ (1 Cor. 1:30); or
if he denies that the merit of Jesus Christ is applied to adults as well as to
infants by the sacrament of baptism… let him be anathema." Pope
Paul III, Council of Trent, Sess. 6, Chap. 3, ex cathedra: "But although Christ died
for all, yet not all receive the benefit of His death, but those only
to whom the merit of His Passion is communicated." It is a divinely revealed truth that no one
can be freed from the state of sin and sanctified without the application the
blood of Redemption to him. Of this no Catholic can doubt. Baptism of desire/blood
advocates – as well as the Pope St. Leo the Great, dogmatic letter to Flavian,
Council of Chalcedon, 451: "Let him heed what the blessed apostle Peter preaches, that sanctification
by the Spirit is effected by the sprinkling of Christ’s blood (1 Pet. 1:2)… It
is He, Jesus Christ, who has come through water and blood, not in water only,
but in water and blood. And because the Spirit is truth, it is the Spirit who
testifies. For there are three who give testimony – Spirit
and water and blood. And the three are one. (1 Jn.
5:4-8) IN OTHER WORDS,
THE SPIRIT OF SANCTIFICATION AND THE BLOOD OF REDEMPTION AND THE WATER OF
BAPTISM. THESE THREE ARE ONE
AND REMAIN INDIVISIBLE. NONE OF THEM IS SEPARABLE FROM ITS LINK WITH THE OTHERS."
Pope A sinner cannot be sanctified by the Spirit
and the Blood, which he must in order to be saved, without the water of
Baptism. In light of this dogmatic letter, baptism of desire and baptism of
blood cannot be held, for these theories separate the Spirit and the Blood from
the water in sanctification. And lest someone tries to find fault with
this infallible definition by arguing that the Blessed Virgin Mary is an
exception to it, it should be recognized that Pope St. Leo is defining on sanctification/justification
from the state of sin. Pope
St. Leo the Great, dogmatic letter to Flavian, Council
of Chalcedon, 451: "Let
him heed what the blessed apostle Peter preaches, that sanctification by the Spirit is effected by the sprinkling of
Christ’s blood (1 Pet. 1:2); and let him not skip over the same apostle’s
words, knowing that you have been
redeemed from the empty way of life you inherited from your fathers, not
with corruptible gold and silver but by the precious blood of Jesus Christ, as
of a lamb without stain or spot (1 Pet. 1:18). Nor should he withstand the
testimony of blessed John the apostle: and the blood of Jesus, the Son of God, purifies
us from every sin (1 Jn. 1:7)..." The Blessed Virgin Mary had no sin. She was
conceived already in a state of perfect sanctification. Since Pope Leo is
defining on sanctification/justification from sin, his definition does not
apply in any way to her. Therefore, there can be no Justification of
a sinner without water baptism (de fide). There can be no application to
a sinner of Christ’s Redemptive Blood without water baptism (de fide).
There can be no salvation without water baptism (de fide). By separating
the Spirit of Sanctification and the Blood of Redemption from the water of
baptism, baptism of desire and blood advocates – and the The significance of Pope St. Leo’s
pronouncement is tremendous. It naturally crushes any idea of salvation the
supposedly "invincibly ignorant." These souls cannot be sanctified
and cleansed by the Blood of Christ without receiving the saving waters of
baptism, which God will bring to those of good will. The Sacrament of Baptism
is the only way that the Blood of Christ is applied to a sinner. The dogma that the blood of Christ is
applied to a sinner in the Sacrament of Baptism was defined by the Council of
Trent; however, the definition is not as specific as Pope Leo’s. The difference
is that, whereas Pope Paul III, Council
of Trent, Sess. 5, on original sin, ex
cathedra: "If anyone asserts that this sin of Adam... is taken
away either by the forces of human nature, or by any remedy other than the
merit of the one mediator, our Lord Jesus Christ, who has reconciled us to God
in his own blood, ‘made unto us justice, sanctification, and
redemption’ (1 Cor. 1:30); or if he denies that
the merit of Jesus Christ is applied to adults as well as to infants by the
sacrament of baptism... let him be anathema." Pope St. Leo’s pronouncement also radically
confirms the Church’s consistent understanding of the words of Jesus Christ in
John 3:5 in their absolutely literal sense: Unless a man is born again of water
and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Those who comprehend this pronouncement from
Pope Leo must reject any belief in the theories of baptism of desire and blood.
They must cease believing and teaching that sanctification by the Spirit comes without
the Spirit, the blood and the water. Those who refuse
to do this are obstinately contradicting the teaching of the Church. To
obstinately contradict the teaching of the Church is to fall into heresy. To
fall into heresy without repentance is to lose one’s salvation. Some may wonder why some early Church
fathers, saints, and theologians taught baptism of desire and blood even after
the time of Pope Leo’s pronouncement. The answer is simple: They were unaware
of Pope Leo’s definitive pronouncement in this regard. They were erring in good
faith. They were fallible human beings. They were not aware that their position
was contrary to the infallible teaching of the Catholic Church. But once one recognizes that this position
on baptism of desire and blood is contrary to the infallible teaching of the
Catholic Church – as a careful consideration of Pope Leo’s pronouncement proves
– one must change his position if he wants to remain Catholic and save his
soul. Peter has spoken through the mouth of Leo and confirmed for us that the
Spirit of Sanctification and the Blood of redemption cannot be separated from
their link with water baptism, so we must align our position with this or else
we don’t have the faith of Peter. There are other errors in the Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam, "With Faith urging us we are forced to believe and to hold
the one, holy, Catholic Church and that, apostolic, and we firmly believe and
simply confess this Church OUTSIDE OF
WHICH THERE IS NO
SALVATION NOR REMISSION OF SIN… Furthermore we declare, say, define
and proclaim to every human creature that they by necessity for salvation are
entirely subject to the Roman Pontiff." John 3:5 vs. John 6:54 Some writers, including Fr. Laisney in Is Feeneyism
Catholic?, have tried to refute a literal interpretation of John 3:5 by
appealing to the words of Our Lord in John 6:54: "Amen, amen I say to
you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall
not have life in you." They argue that the language in this verse is
the same as in John 3:5, and yet the Church doesn’t take Jn.
6:54 literally – for infants don’t need to receive the Eucharist to be saved.
But the argument falters because the proponents of this argument have missed a
crucial difference in the wording of these two verses. John John 3:5-
"Amen, amen I say to thee, UNLESS A MAN be
born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the Our Lord Jesus Christ, when speaking on the
necessity of receiving the Eucharist in John Pope
Paul III, Council of Trent, Canons on the Sacrament of Baptism,
Can. 5: "IF ANYONE SHALL SAY THAT BAPTISM IS OPTIONAL, THAT IS, NOT
NECESSARY FOR SALVATION (cf. John 3:5): let him be anathema." John
3:5-7: "Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter
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